Americas cup gossip

F48 = 1400 sq. inches SA, 48" long max., and 48 " wide max. two or more hulls - no weight limits, foils or not, 1-2-or ??? rudders, no limit on radio channels Solid wing(s) and/or soft sails. NO KITES until ISAF comes up with a change in sailing rules to address kite racing.

Come on out - I’m willing to spend some energy (again) to see if we can’t get the F48 (or even the MultiONE) classes going so there can be some competition (racing). :cool:

ADDED: In case there is interest in the MultiONE Class, here is a link to the rules published on the RC Groups site

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1408190

Dick, put that up on Rcgroups, maybe we can fire up some more interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXV3Wdu_Ms4#t=42
not ac, not cats, but foiling…nice soundtrack… too…

LOL - spate out my coffee !!! good one and I missed it LOL :smile_lol:smile_lol

wow just watched race 5 and I simply can’t believe what I saw- probably the worse beat ever for OR from gate 2. tactical mistakes after another !!! thought they were the local boys ??? tacking in the wrong place and time, sailing in the current and not having a good pace up wind either wow from being ahead to over 1500m behind in one leg !!!

shocking sailing really but since I back ETNZ a win is a win …

no race 6 as OR uses their joker and call the racing off for the day and listening to JS they need to regroup and rethink…

ETNZ really seems to have further increased their speed up wind and not loosing downwind anymore + are on the ball tactically. The pressure is on with OR still on 0 pt despite their single win.

Can you believe that commentator?? He seems to be almost HAPPY to announce that ETNZ “spanked” OR when on the final leg of Race 5. Are those guys Americans? They sound like Americans, but talk like they want OR to lose!

It’s one thing to exclaim in surprise when something extraordinary happens, like when NZ put the bows under during a bear-off, but these guys seem to be happy to announce OVER AND OVER that OR is getting beat, or is falling behind, or that OR needs 157,351 wins to ETNZ’s 9 to defend the Cup. :pissed:

AAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH… :mean:

That was a shocker !!! …but the highlight of the day was the post race press conference with the two quotes of the day coming from J.S saying “The teams not flustered”yeah right ! and the other “One day your the rooster & the next your a feather duster” …now wondering if uncle Larry is going to start using his cards in producing some feather dusters for Thursdays racing. :rolleyes:

//youtu.be/kNnzMWMl9Pw

I’ll bet oracle feels like a one legged man at and a$$ kicking contest right…

The “foiling tack” I guess it didn’t work as planned…

the commentators get just as excited as when orcale is leading. have to remember you are playing to a world wide audience, not just the small US TV audience

How Un-American for those guys to get excited when the challengers get a leg up. If they wanted a more neutral personality, they should get one from another country, like AntArctica. :rolleyes:

the commentators kept on going on about the leeward gate rounding and that OR lost it with their foiling tack option - I don’t agree !

Yes that was odd and whilst it may have worked with a monohull, with a multi not a chance however this was not it - for me despite this move they were still in the battle up to their tack onto starboard at the boundary behind alcatraz which made sense but then why they didn’t cross to the other side boundary to get out of the current and blocking the options of ETNZ, instead they tacked in the middle sailing right up against the current and got covered by ETNZ and then when they tacked on stb again and their pointing seemed quite off compared to ETNZ. The distance they lost by is really the combination of bad tactical choices, some poor manoeuvring, bad trimming or boat performance issue for these conditions. Then to crown the day they decide on another shocking thing - to use their joker to postpone the racing for the day - no more joker for them and with boats like the AC72 a breakage is never far away as we’ve seen with all the teams even ETNZ so I think that using their card now because they have an off day is wrong again but that’s only my view.

The pressure is on and regardless of what JS says they feel it where as I feel the NZ are retaining their calm and seem to take each day as it comes - nothing is finished and let’s see how the next races pans out.

I’m going to assume JS discovered something very wrong with the boat, or he knows what was going on, and it’s a big problem that will cost them the rest of the Cup races.

After I saw that first foiling tack I thought the board either got bent, twisted or damaged so it was dragging a LOT. I also thought it was very odd that they went all the way around the mark instead of keeping the speed/momentum to shoot out to the boundary.

well, if you had been listing to the american hating announcers, you would have heard that they saw spitty practicing that maneuver during the practice day…

but yeah they never should have tacked, round the mark harden up, and wait to see what ETNZ did.

match racing basics.

if you are the leader, make every attempt to stay between the next mark and your competitor.
If you are behind, then you want to split.

Kostecki become a feather duster ? Ainslie in his seat on the boat yesterday … very unamerican … no more Americans sailing in the Americas Cup ? … Team Oracle USA just does not sound :confused:

where is slingby from ?

Australia …that little island off the main land of New Zealand

//youtu.be/6hlFcnkGY-o

:wink:

team usa.
Sponsors…
Oracle- USA
Tag Heuer- Switzerland
Puma- Germany
Yanmar- Japanese

look at the suppliers list…

plenty of foreign suppliers…

the team list is a who’s who of international folks, with only 2 americans on the crew…

I think they should bring back the “country” rule and your teams needs to be made up of people from your country…

heck we probably got more new zealanders on Oracle than ETNZ…

:smilebig:

:pirate:

That’s real neighbourhood!

:trouble:

:smiley:

That’s what I was thinking too.
Later on that leg OTUSA didn’t perform as well as known at the close hauled, besides the tactical failures.
Murray talked about ‘structural problems’.

JS won’t tell us the whole story.

Just in cse, I found some details, with a few photos, about the penalty OR got from the AC45s:

http://www.cupexperience.com/blog/americas-cup-cheating-scandal-penalty?utm_source=Cup+Experience+-+Newsletter&utm_campaign=6ba9319368-13w37_d3_newsletter_AC_mid_week9_11_2013&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e0d7568ef7-6ba9319368-72565677