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I am wanting to get into this sport. As a newbie I need some advice on the best boat for a beginner.I have at the moment a choice of boats available :
1.10R class Phoenix 1
2. A class Highlander
As another option is it feasible to convert a 10R to an A class ? If so, how?
lol wow thats alot of boat to get into the sport with. i myself started with a victoria that i modiefied to my liking (the kit stuff is junk) ntm do you know how much those other boats cost? i would recomend a victoria, seawind, or a fair wind just to get your feet wet than move up, like right now i’m building a one meter while i’m working on my vic.
i love tinkering with these boats it takes up time i’m sure my girfreind is going to hate it soon
Exactly. Those are some big boats. I usually suggest a USOM, because we all have experience with those in our club.
But you can have what you like. I prefer to go with the smaller for spacial reasons, like my small car.
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Well maybe they are big boats but down under we’re big boys.[:D]
One factor is that none of the classes you refer to are sailed down here. The price range of the 2 boats I am looking at is around $500 AUD ($650 US) second hand. I drive a van so size is not a problem. I am more interested in the feasability of changing the 10R to an A class.
Ross.
Why not just have the A class?
Luff 'em & leave 'em.
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[brnd. I drive a van so size is not a problem. I am more interested in the feasability of changing the 10R to an A class.
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Hi Ross
These are very different classes of boat. A 10R typically displaces 8 or 9 kg and has a keel around 600 or 700 mm long. An A class might displace 15 or 20 kg, but has quite a shallow draft, perhaps 300 mm. There is no realistic chance of changing one into another.
What does your local club sail? I’d always suggest starting with the class you can get help and advice with, particularly if you are new.
Lester Gilbert
i agree with lester
what do people in your area drive? I myself would not like to play with either boat. not if i was just starting out. i would look into a victoria, or go into a us 1 meter, or at mosr an IOM, I drive IOM most of the time. and find most places i go. there is a IOM or 2. the us 1 meter in my area is almost non existant. but you have to decide for your self. iti s just my opion , but if i were you , and I had a chance at a 10r. i would take it. and then trade it for a used IOM
good luck
cougar
[:-pirate] Koala, Australia has produced some of the best <font color=“green”><font size=“2”>International One Metre </font id=“size2”></font id=“green”>sailors and yacht designs in the world. If you go to the Australian Model Yacht Association website you will find clubs listed there that you should make contact with for some helpful advise. If it is the case that they do not sail
IOMs in your area, then my advice would be to go with the Phoenix as the 10 rater class is such an exciting class to sail. [:-slaphappy]
Do it NOW before it`s too late.
Ross, are you the same person that e-mailed me relating to r/c cats?
If not where in Australia are you? I’m in Australia and could offer some advice into what maybe the best way to go.
10R are popular with several clubs here. I think the A class is losing popularity which is unfortunate as they are an enjoyable boat to sail(if you are in to them).
Willing to help any way I can.
Peter
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Hi Ross
These are very different classes of boat. A 10R typically displaces 8 or 9 kg and has a keel around 600 or 700 mm long. An A class might displace 15 or 20 kg, but has quite a shallow draft, perhaps 300 mm. There is no realistic chance of changing one into another.
What does your local club sail? I’d always suggest starting with the class you can get help and advice with, particularly if you are new.
Lester Gilbert
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Thanks Lester, from what I have seen on your website it is unusual to see you listed as a “starting member” in this one. The local club sail predominately A class but don’t mind what you have. My main consideration at this stage has been price as I can’t justify spending a couple of thousand of bucks on a boat that I might not want to stay with a couple of months down the track. The boats I have mentioned are around the $Au450 ready to sail, plus I have now found a Marblehead on offer as well. So this is the question, which would be the most suitable to sail/learn etc overall ?
1.Marblehead —model unknown
2.10R — Phoenix 1
3.A class — Highlander
I realise that none of them may be ideal as a learners boat but these are the only options I have at the moment.
Regards,
Ross.
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Hi Ross
I reckon we all get to start somewhere…[:)]
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I understand your concern, but I’ve got to stick with what I do think is the best advice – sail whatever they sail at your local club. A lot of your learning is going to come from your fellow club members as you ask 'em for building and tuning advice, race against them, and (with luck!) have a drink afterwards… When you’ve decided if the sport is for you, a year or so down the line I guess, then you can sell your A more easily if you want and make a properly informed decision on the future.
Lester Gilbert
http://www.iomclass.org/
http://www.onemetre.net/
Lester,
Could the A Class boat mentioned here be one of the Highlander’s designed by B H Priest?.
IF so, that would be the boat to buy, much better than an unknown? 10 Rater.
The A Class Highlander is a classic design, its resale value would be much more than the 10 Rater.
The original Highlander data;
LOA, 79 inches.
LWA, 54 inches.
Beam, 12 1/2 inches.
Draft, 12 inches.
Weight 52 lbs.
Edit Data.
John.
Lester has it 100% right. Go with what the locals sail and race. There is no substitute for having someone live, on your boat, showing you how to set up and tune.
ok everybody
up off thier knees. lester is here. lol
most poeple know that lester give good advice
cougar
long live the cup
If you have no one to sail against. After my tri’s my 10R is the fastest on the pond.
Hi JayDee,
I think I have a Highlander from B.H.Priest.
Can you confirm this?
Where can I get more information about this boat?
If someone can buy this kind of boat, go for it.
The boat sails very nice, it cuts smooth through the water and is very vast.
The only disadvantage is the weight.
My web-site: http://members.chello.nl/~t.iwema
Rergards,
Hugo
Hello Hugo,
Your boat looks very like a Highlander, I have no photos taken that match the angles of yours,
but I am almost certain it is the B H Priest design.
Here are some sizes to check;
Max Beam on Deck 12 1/2 inches.
Length O/all 79 inches.
Water line 54 inches.
Displacement 52 Pounds.
Mast should be approx 30 inches from the Bow.
Plank on Frame construction, NO Fibre glass, only Varnish.
Hope this helps.
John.
Hi Jaydee,
Mine is made from fibreglass and therefore I think it’s made by Bob Underwood.
http://www.bridgeboats.fut.net/bob.htm.
The sizes are ok.
Regards,
Hugo
Hi,
Some new photos.
Regards,
Hugo
Your boat also is very close to either a Newport 12M, or an older “A” Class design 6M that I still manufacture. I would have to see the keel and rudder to tell them apart, or from the other boats listed in the other posts. The weight is very close to the Newport 12.