greg- great looking club (and great looking “pond”) i would love to come check it out someday. and i agree with your sentiments
why are you so negative? obviously the topic of handicaps has merits and interest. and i know i am not the only one with an “orphan” design. but i guess because you have informal over/under 50 races, the issue is solved, and the rest is redundant. i think not.
first off, a handicap system based on wl length, sa, and displacement is accepted almost entirely throughout the world. is it perfect? no. will it please all? no. but name a handicap in any form (not just sailing), and you will hear the same things (you should hear some of my clients bitch about their golf indexes and how that awesome round they shot just screwed them up completely). but the nice thing is, handicaps are adjustable. and these handicaps would not exist for world titles or anything other than fun races…after all that is why we sail and race right? for fun?
secondly, the race committee has to record finish times…WOW, thats uncommon (not to mention that its work). [:-sick] i know for a fact you’ve been involved with race committee work, and thats exactly what it is…WORK. so now you, or a partner, hold a stopwatch and someone else writes it down as you call it out. if thats too difficult, then im sorry if this offends you, but you’re freakin lazy. everyone, at one point or another, has to put down the boat and pull his/her weight with committee work.
third, (and i hate to do this, but to paraphrase d. lord) “you obviously did not read my post”. it doesn’t matter whether you sail circles around me. i am not interested in being crowned the amya portsmouth champion. knowing where you finish, whether its for something or nothing, is a natural human trait. to recap my earlier scenario, in your version… you and your m-head buddies sail circles around me the first time we sail, and believe me, by the end of the race i’m going to be chatting you up on your boat (and probably ask you to let me take her for a spin). guess what…that night my wife would get an earful of how there were these guys with awesome boats, and they race together in one design/developemental classes. then the next time you kick my arse, i’m going to chat you up some more. or maybe im chatting up the guy with the soling…you get the point (i hope). by the third time getting waxed, i know the people around, i have a better understanding of the nuances and differences of classes, and my wife is sick and tired of hearing me talk about how cool the other boats and people are. guess what…im hooked. new amya member, new boat owner, new fleet member. hey, look at that…suddenly the amya is growing. please tell me, is an informal handicap race every month or two just too much of a commitment for the average member?
what are we talking about here? it is called “organizing 101”. giving back to the sport (which i know you do, roy) and ensuring its continued success in the future. but all it takes to destroy potential new members, is negativity. i have already explained that i experienced it firsthand at spreckles years ago, and i see the same attitude (at times, from certain people) here. “open arms” isn’t merely a journey song…its a way of thinking. no one should be left out.
i know your next response will be that i should look at the amya website and find another club to visit (perhaps bill’s, or the south bay club, or the laser boys in redwood city). you’ll say i should drop by and talk to them on a race day, see what classes they race, and that you are positive they will be accomodating with information on their classes. and what about the first time i ask to take their “sticks” and boat for a test…without knowing me, my background, or my sailing knowledge, what do you think the response will be? i doubt they would tell me to “sod off”, but i also doubt they would say, “oh sure, mr. guy i just met”. having a boat, the ability to build it, rig it, and sail it, and even race it against another, breaks us all down to the lowest common denominator. you know though, after being burned before and seeing someone such as yourself who has a wealth of knowledge and understanding for the sport, downplay every attempt at changing the norm…well i, like you, just dont want to exert the effort nor take the chance.
i do not mean this in any disrespect, but as you say of doug and his non-stop “gypsy elixir” banter (about technology and changing the world and how we all are just not bright enough to understand that it works…on paper) pushing away the novices and newbies in your sport, please stop to realize that maybe your line of thinking also has a negative impact on something you are obviously passionate about. there are plenty of potential members that lurk, and i was one that was foolish enough to post my thoughts on the subject, please stop for a moment and think about the silent ones.