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The potential gains are so great tactically, in manouvering and in vmg that spending the time to understand how it should work and then implementing that precisely is worth the effort.
I have a feeling that when it’s all worked out with a little practice it will be second nature…
–High Technology Sailing/Racing
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I guess I will need to wait to see and belive in the concept Doug.
For some reason, yet unknown to me, I am having a very difficult time in trying to understand the basics - let alone the unknown problems yet to be identified and associated with the process.
I see being on a windward tack and with gusty winds strong enough to require the keel to be canted to windward. To the operator, he/she is deeply involved in sail trim, steering, and tactics. Also keeping an eye on the “B” mark and watching the directions of close opponents and avoiding even closer competitors directly ahead.
As the boat nears the turning mark, the wind suddenly dies or shifts 15 degrees. (not unheard of) Suddenly the amount of cant is no longer required, and the windward located keel begins to drop down, without the sail pressure required to keep it at it’s intended (programmed) postion, relative to hull and water surface. As quickly as this happens, and operator is about 100 feet away and not feeling the wind let up suddenly sees the mast roll to windward as the keel seeks it’s most available vertical position.
How long to bring keel back to vertical relative postion so the mast is back vertical?
Will the mast and wet (possibly full-of-water} sails be able to be lifted back to vertical?
What if mast or sails touch a nearby boat to windward of this one or the turning mark?
What if a big and fast windshift happens where once again the cant lever advantage isn’t needed?
Does the operator steer down with the header - or drop the keel to vertical - or tack to the lift and have to transverse the keel from one side to another?
If the skipper doesn’t see the loss of wind or the sudden unexpected wind shift, - how can you even begin to suggest tactical gains ? I know “YOUR” last name is Lord and while you might have a bit of insight better than the rest of us - to even suggest an untried concept in pond r/c racing has tactical advantages is beyond my comprehension. Ahhhhh - perhaps you “meant to say” the competitors NOT fooling with all these whistles and bells are the ones to gain a tactical advantage from the system? Now <u>THAT</u> concept I might believe.
A gentle suggestion Doug —> until you can demonstrate this system in an actual r/c setting with all the unknown weather patterns and implications happening in a race situation, why not simply stay away from posting unproven, undocumented theories and results. In this case of your most recent quote, you once again managed to post an absolute! You didn’t even bother to preface with “In my opinion” – nope, just a flat out statement that remains unproven … “The potential gains are so great …” Yeah, right… [:-boring]
Don’t you get it after all this time? You haven’t proven a thing, just spouted more hot air/unproven theories, and until you do prove what you post there are some of us who will continually keep roasting you over the fire.
Perhaps the suggestion needs to be stronger - PLEASE SHUT UP! If that doesn’t work, then perhaps the moderators need to kill ALL posts - yours and ours whenever the same information is posted a second time? I have no problem with them taking on that responsibility. In the meantime - if you must continue to post these absurd, unproven statements and conjectures, don’t be surprised if there isn’t someone who will respond with a different view.
Simply prove yourself right and the rest of us wrong. Not too difficult if you actually build and race what you hypothesize.