Sailing Anarchy has a cool picture of a new Moth. The picture shows the boat about 3 feet out of the water on foils. Very cool!
http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe/2003/Images/moth2.jpg
Kristopher
Also check out:www.monofoiler.com for more Moth pix on foils and pictures of an International 14 on foils flying high with an asymetrical set!
Doug Lord
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So when are we going to see pictures of the micromoth on foils or the aeroskiff for that matter on foils. Has there been no wind there all summer?
What happened to the Micromoth being the fastest thing under 60" according to your article, if the Bantock F100 is supposed to be the fastest One Meter monohull anywhere.
I’m so glad to know of your interest Ryan!
If the microMOTH goes into production then it will be ,without question, the fastest monohull under 60.5765" and the most difficult rc sailboat to learn how to sail(and the most rewarding once mastered).
The F100CBTF will be the fastest One Meter ,with a hunk of lead attached, by a large margin according to the designers predictions. As well as providing a totaly new and challenging racing experience surpassing any fixed keel boat
in both challenge and reward.
Pictures? Sooner or later probably. And the wind has been just terrific, thanks.
Doug Lord
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Sometimes its fun to read the article as well as look at the pictures. According to the “Sailing Anarachy” story, the “flying” Moth pictured removed its foils for actual racing. The story also states that despite hydrofoil designs, the current boat to beat in the Moth class is a “conventional” (i.e. non-hydrofoil) Australian design.
Unfortunately, too many people are satisfied with just part of the story or a few of the “facts”. The Moth shown won the only race it sailed in with the foils by over 4 minutes! The regatta was mostly light air and that was why in subsequent races the boat sailed without foils.
In the last couple of years foil borne Moths have won quite a few races and one day-in the right conditions- will win a Worlds or Nationals.
The biggest problem so far with hydrofoils on full size boats or models is the extra wetted surface of the foils in light air or transitional conditions.A number of designers across the globe are working on retractable foil designs that will rectify this problem; designs are being done now that utilize retracatable foil systems on canting keel boats providing stability, light weight and speed in ANY condition.
The application of hydrofoils to monohulls is a growing phenomenon reflecting the tremendous gains in speed and control that foils offer. There will always be detractors to any new development but they contribute absolutely nothing and have zero effect on the application of this hugely promising technology.
Doug Lord
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The foil borne moth won 3 races and finnished third overall in the world champs,could have been second but for a DSQ.
not sure if the 3 out of 10 races it won were all on foils or not.
as an aside the moth class has restricted the type of foils allowable making it a slightly more differcult task to accomplish at this stage.
Brett
The boat that won the Moth World Championship was the non-foil equipped design mentioned in the Sailing Anarchy story. It won six out of the ten total races. As to the third place boat, so far the stories don’t indicate wheter or not it ever put the foils back on after initially removing them for formal racing.
The article also mentions" predominately light conditions"; foils so far don’t work well in light conditions(!).
The guy that made those foils also made the foils on my boat and he is 100% convinved that hydrofoils are closer than ever to winning big. The foils used on the boat at the worlds are fully submerged altitude controlled and easy to sail with whereas previous incarnations of Moth foils were surface piercing and had a tendency to wipe out in rougher conditions due to ventilation. No such problem with the foils at this Worlds which have been tested in severe conditions.
Doug Lord
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It turns out that Rohan Veal, the guy whose boat is shown in the picture won TWO races on foils at the recent Worlds in France. His performance in a regatta with mostly light air has set off tremendous renewd controversy with the non- flyers wanting to stop the flyers at all costs! Some of the stuff you hear is incredible almost like:“If God had meant man to fly he would have given us wings”.
Most of the people that are saying ,once agan, that foils should be banned are people that have NEVER tried them. But it is really tied up in the old development class debate: how much development is too much? The Moth traditions are rich with innovation yet flying foilers are perhaps the greatest advance in Moth (or small boat) sailing in the last 50 years or more. Some people are afraid of heights; some try to couch their objections in cloaks of rising costs though thats hard because compared to the change from the wide hulls to the narrow hulls a few years ago cost is very little. Those people in model or fullsize development classes that vote to restrict development should go start one design classes instead of trying to ruin development classes’ ability to DEVELOP!
In models after 50 years spinnakers were banned from a couple of rc classes just when the techhnology had made such sails feasible.
Now after Rohan has shown that major Championships are winnable with a foiler “retro-dudes” in the Moth Class are trying to ban foilers even after they were voted in by the class just last year!!!
If you don’t want to fly take the bus…
Doug Lord
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