Thanks alot guys! I will take these ideas and hints to the water, and I always forget mast position even on my big boats? I appreciate the advice and will make my little footy sail great with alittle work!
Vince
Helpful comments from both Richard and Ian - not just for Vince, but for all of us.
I’d like to hear other opinions/experiences on Ian’s suggestion that the rig CE should be just behind the CLR. As he said, there doesn’t seem to be a “rule” for this. I seem to remember Brett suggesting the CE on his boats is about 5% in front of the CLR.
How predictable is this? Does hull design make a difference? Anybody have any tricks on designing a rig to get a pre-determined CE, so I could cut my sails to fit where I put my mast?
Any suggestions for a designed-in “safety margin” using variable mast positions? I put 3 mast tubes in my hulls, one behind and one ahead of the 5% ahead of CLR position. Could someone explain Richard’s mast box idea?
Wish I could put my boats in the water and contribute to this thread, but the holes in the ice the fisherrmen drill aren’t big enough even for a footy! [:-cry]
It’s really great to see this forum getting so active. Thanks for all the help…Bill
I assume Richard means a mast box.prob the same size as the mast at the bottom flaring out at deck level so the mast rake can be altered.
Here is a pic of his nice footy.
Great job on the sails!
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So went out sat. and got over an hour of sailing with my Footy (forgot the camera again?), I was having a hell of a time getting good control of it heading up wind. I tried and moved the angle of the mast to aft a few degrees and boy what difference!! I have to say just that minor change really made the yacht sail great! I will build another footy and move the mast to the stern an 1" and see how that works out.
I really like this boat but everyone else was sailing Victoria yachts and Footy just looks like a toy next to all them in the water, I think if there were more footies out there it wouldn’t have looked so out of place. I have another member of our club building one and then with my 2 and another we will see how fun they are to race.
Good news, Vince…sounds like you’ve got it now.
Where are you located? I envy you having soft water to play on!
Let us know how footys catch on at your club. I’m seriousy considering nominating the footy as an AMYA class this year. We’d need 20 registered boats to be official. Between what I hope to get going in the Northeast, what Rob and Mike could do in California, and your enthusiasm, we might have a good nucleous for promotion of the class and expansion. We could put brochures together, publish plans, tips,etc. I think footys have the potential to be an attention getter at local events that could be a good promotion for AMYA and the sport overall. With racing on short courses, it could even be done in a town swimming pool! The cute factor of these little boats might help lure families into the sport to take over from old guys like me.
Bill
There are some Footy’s in the registry as far as I know of. As soon as mine is completed, I’ll get it registered as well.
Travis
Don’t forget to have fun!!!
I have learned since I first posted today that I have my side walls backwards, the front is on the back?? I am starting a new footy tonight to see if it will work any better the right way round.
I am in Colorado, we had a week of really warm weather and it thawed the lakes in our area.
How do U register your footy with the AMYA.
Vince
Mine’s not yet registered, as it’s not totally completed. But once done, I’m planning on registering under the “Footy” category (hoping for a new class) using the form at http://www.amya.org/yachtreg.html As the Footy is not yet a class, I’ll send it to the “Open” class secretary.
Travis
Don’t forget to have fun!!!
OK, then let’s see how many boats we can get registered with AMYA!
Currently, registering in the “Open” class, as Travis suggests, is the only option. To be recognized, we need 20 boats, a set of rules, and someone designated as a temporary Class Secretary, to coordinate things until the first election is held.
Tell me what you think…should we go for it?
Bill
These first steps to forming a class are very important and could make or break it long term.
Think carefully about what you all want the “footy” to be.
I hope it comes to be.
The most popular classes have been getting smaller over the decades,A class,M and now the one metre classes.
Rc equipment is getting smaller and less expensive too.
micro models are the In thing with both planes and cars.I think this is a good omen :))
Brett
Since seeing that my footy has the sides on backwards I made a new one. I used sign material(about 1/32" thick), like the for sale sign for a car or no tresspassing signs. I got a big “No Tresspassing” sign for $2.50 and was able cut 2 footies out of it, I used goop to glue it together and it is super light and strong!! This is much cheaper than the $10 for one footy I made first, and I think stronger. I will paint it to cover the sign part of it and be able to have 2 more hulls made!
I will probably keep my original backward sided footy since it sailed pretty well until I see the new footy sail alot better. I will post some pics tomorrow before painting it.
We need to keep the servo size and battery size open so we can be flexable with the build. I have tons of smaller that standard servos laying around and only a few standards, the point of the footy is not restrict, it is to have fun and keep the size of the boat inside the box…like the US1M class!
Vince
Vince, there was no doubt that your first footy had an unusual look to it - but I never caught on that you had reversed the sides! [:D]
Sometimes mistakes are the real mother of invention, though, so it will be interesting to have you compare the sailing characteristics of the old vs. the new boats. Work fast before the pond freezes again!
The sign material sounds like a creative option. Please weigh the new boat and let us know how it compares to the old. You might be on to a cheap way to build a club fleet.
Thanks…Bill
hey all
are there any other places on the net talking about these footys? they look really cool!! ’
Stephen
Brett and I have been working on a new set of Footy Class rules, based on ideas from all of you here on the forum. I’ve attached them below.
We’d like to hear from you, particularly with regard to things like the number of rigs, whether we should allow movable ballast, etc. The rules as proposed now permit overhangs and micro radio gear, as you seemed to want them.
I’d like to wrap this up fairly soon, so I can take it to the AMYA and get moving on getting footys recognized as a development class in the USA.
BTW, if any of you AMYA members would like to be Footy CLass Secretary, please let us know. I’m willing to give it a go, but would gladly defer to someone who has a burning desire for the glory!
Thanks to all of you…Bill Hagerup
Footy class rules , Draft only Feb. 3, 2005
A restricted development class
1/ Hull
A/ The must be no longer than 12inches (306mm)
B/ Monohull only, no more than 1/8? (3mm) hollow in side view or plan view.
C/ Bowsprits and Bumpkins are allowed, maximum projection is 2? at either end of the hull
2/ Keel(s) and Rudder(s)
A/ overhanging rudders are permitted, maximum overhang is 2?(50mm)
B/ Only one set of keel(s) and rudder(s) may be used in a race or series of races except in cases of genuine damage and then may only be replaced with similar items at the discretion of the RO
C/ ballast cannot be heavier than lead.
D/ Moving ballast is prohibited
3/ Rig(s)
A/ The top of the rig may not be higher than 20 ?(508mm) above the ?deck?. The ?deck? can be any nominated part of the yachts deck but this same point must be used in the measurement of all the yachts rigs.
B/The rig(s) may overlap the bow and stern by a maximum of 2 ?(50mm)
C/ A maximum of 3 rigs may be used in a race or series of races. The 3 rigs to be nominated before the commencement of racing.
4/ Radio Control
A/ Only 2 functions of radio control are permitted. One to control the rudder(s) only and the second to control all sails simultaneously only.
B/ All batteries must be housed inside the hull.
5/ Class Insignia and registration numbers
A/ The class Insignia shall be displayed on both sides of the top 1/3rd of the mainsail.
B/ Sail numbers issued by the national authority must be displayed on both sides of the mainsail, min height is 1 ?(25mm)
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C/ Bowsprits and Bumpkins are allowed, maximum projection is 2? at either end of the hull
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Two feet??
Don
Don Case
Vancouver IslandTypo,
2 inches. Forgive me I mainly work in the metric system down here!
So have these rules been set in stone and we can call the challenge set? (got a half metre ‘on the stocks’ and a cat design to finish but hey, I can build a footy in a couple of days…!)
Luff 'em & leave 'em.
Thanks, Don, for catching the typos. Looked right past them, knowing what Brett intended. I’ve changed all the tick marks to the word “inches” in my copy - won’t bother to repost it here for now.
Not cast in stone yet, Matthew, but getting close. I’d kind of like to allow movable ballast (canting keels and the like) but Brett thinks the complication might put off potential newcomers to the class. If we allow movable ballast, then need to allow at least 3 channels. Any strong feelings out there?
Bill
as a newby… or person with no experience in RC yachts and being a student also i would go for the 2 channel RC and no moving keels etc…